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Gilgamech's avatar

Thank you for the nuanced assessment, Ian.

We should consider that even when there is a parent in Ukraine demanding their child come there, there may be the other parent in Russia demanding their child child stay there (and vice versa). This long war has caused a lot of divorce in two countries that already had a high level of divorce. Sometimes it’s not about war, but just the usual misery of family breakdown.

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In October 2024, Ukraine claimed 1.5 million Ukrainian children were at risk of being "deported" by Russia. They were never able to produce any evidence of these claims and later accused Russia of abducting more than 20,000 children. Independent journalists were never able to verify these claims. Some of them travelled to Ukraine and later to Russia in an attempt to do that. They were able to meet with children who were evacuated to safety by the Russian troops. There was no evidence of forced evacuation of any children who were safe with their families. Evacuated children were usually those who were either somehow separated from their families or those who lost their parents and had no identified relatives at the time. They were placed in orphanages, where they were given not only food and shelter but also access to education.

On the other hand, there were alarming reports from the Ukrainian refugees who travelled to Europe and were separated from their children in countries such as Germany and the Netherlands with no explanations given to them. Many are still struggling to reunite with their children.

To date, Ukraine still failed to share with the Russian government the list of the allegedly abducted 20,000 children. After the latest round of negotiations in Istanbul, Ukraine produced a list of 339 "abducted" children. The question is where are the other 19,661 names then and don't the Ukrainians want them returned?

Given the well known reports of various paedophile rings operating in Europe and the Ukrainian children who have gone missing in Germany and the Netherlands after their parents arrived there as refugees, the Russians quite rightly only agree to hand over those children who can be reunited with the identified parents or other relatives rater than just handing them over on request from the Ukrainian government. After all, it is the same Ukrainian government that failed to produce the names of children that they accuse Russia of abducting and it is the same government that doesn't care enough to collect the bodies of 6,000 soldiers, who fought for their country, which Russia offered to hand over without any conditions for burial.

I still can't believe that this story of abducted children was the basis of the ICC's warrant for Putin's arrest, which still remains valid without any evidence of the alleged abduction having ever been presented by the Ukrainian government! That's the mad world we live in today!

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