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Thunderbirdsong's avatar

How legal would it be? President Putin is a judicious lawyer. Misfit Zelenski is unelected and controlled by a Deep state corrupt external government. Kiev was once the capital of Russia. How much would you pay to buy back London? Like his cousin Soros, Zelenski parades as a nazi when he is a closet communist. The eastern Ukrainian rare earth treasures easily belong to Russia. But 3 globalist American companies are waiting to confiscate them, and this is why the profiteering MI Complex used Ukraine as a proxy.

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Archie1954's avatar

The West seems tomforget that Russia is simply protecting ther majority of ethnic Russians who reside in Donbass and adjacent oblasts. The illegal Kiev government very early on already started to treat them as second class citizens and was blasting their cities with military ordnanace. If Kiev had shown any predilection to treat the Eastern oblasts as Ukrainain peoples, instead of defiled Russians, the oblasts may not have asked Russia for unification.

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Sladkovian's avatar

Nope. Russia should achieve its military goals. You cannot trust the west, as has been proven.

Russia's aim of getting the west to sign a piece of paper that promises not to allow Ukraine into NATO is an understandable goal, but the west can - likely will - simply renege on it a day later.

Russia should (and this is me looking at it objectively) simply carry on grinding down the male half of the Ukrainian population into dust, until they surrender...and then carry on regardless.

For Russia now it's about territory. Moving their western border (in a Ukraine sense) westwards.

That might sound callous but the only way to achieve long-term peace is to arrive at a situation where Russia feels it can cope with the threat level from the west. There's a long way to go yet. Potentially years more fighting. I don't envisage any end to this conflict in 2025. How? People (who are probably making small fortunes on social media) describing every storming of a village by the Russians as "critical" for the Ukrainians, have been doing this for three years. So we can see that it wasn't critical. The Ukrainian lines aren't collapsing, or showing any signs of doing so. Sure they've been pushed all the way to Pokrovsk, but in a lot of places are holding their own.

Russia isn't going to pay Ukraine $300bn, so Ukraine can spend it on missiles, not reparations.

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Importantly, I would take issue with any suggestion that the Trump regime even wants to rebuild Ukraine into a prosperous country. On the contrary, if you're of the Lindsey Graham persuasion (God forbid), you've got Ukraine right where you want them: resource-rich but desperate.

Trump is beginning to make Graham noises (the mind boggles), in terms of wanting to get 'his' hands on these Ukrainian resources. The United States has supposedly paid Ukraine nearly $200bn and it sounds like Trump wants to be paid back. How? Ukraine is bankrupt. Stealing the Russian assets is a) illegal and b) the Europeans won't let them. The answer – I predicted months ago – was payment in kind, not cash. Now the US vultures circle the Ukrainian carcass.

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At the risk of being accused of being a stuck record, I think I pointed out here or elsewhere that the supposed biggest Lithium deposit in the galaxy, at one of the villages called Shevchenko, has been untapped for over 40 years. Not knowing the first thing about mining lithium, nevertheless I remain suspicious. Why haven't Ukraine dug it up. Not even a spade in the earth?

And at the risk of sounding like someone who enjoys conspiracy theories, or even peddles them, is this deposit really as extensive/valuable as is generally suggested? Well, a quick look at a Ukrainian-authored (Lozhnikov et al, representing Dnipro University of Technology) EU-funded (of course!) paper on the internet appears to indicate that some types of Lithium are more equal than others (joke) and that the Ukrainian deposits are of a particular type (petalite, or spodumene-petalite) that is difficult, from a geological and financial perspective, to enrich.

Spodumene-petalite eh? Hear that, Lindsey? Stick that in your pipe and smoke it!

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LudwigF's avatar

Thanks for your writings.

If Russia were to achieve all the territorial and political objectives that it has set itself, and the peace settlement was endorsed by a Security Council resolution, then a $300b contribution towards the rebuilding of Ukraine seems like a fair price to pay, and a good deal for Russia.

On the other hand, Russia might prefer to see whatever’s left of Ukraine remaining a dysfunctional sea of ruins and rubble, than seeing it rebuilt, prosperous and increasingly integrated into the western alliance, and a potential threat in the future.

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Julian Hudson's avatar

You phrase your comment in a way that unfairly paints Russia in a bad light without any justification being offered. You make Russia sound as if it is by nature mean spirited, jealous, envious of Ukraine.

Such is not at all the case. Russia has been consistently been more than generous to Ukraine and the West.

Russia tolerated Ukrainian theft of Russian gas from its natural gas pipelines that ran through Ukraine. When the West was offering Ukraine economic assistance their loan offer would've caused Ukraine to implement austerity measures that would've made life difficult for the Ukrainian people. The U.S. conducted a regime change operation in Ukraine against the democratically elected government of Yanukovych. It's the Americans who bloated about how they are getting a good return on their money for financing this war because it isn't costing them one American life. It's the Americans who have destroyed Ukraine's demographic future by maintaining a war that has seen 1 million Ukrainian men killed. And they are now pressing Ukraine to draft 18 year old males to be used as Canon fodder. It is the U.S. that installed murderous banderite Nazis into the Ukrainian military and government. And who knew that Ukraine couldn't win this war.

And now look at what Trump is doing to Ukraine. He's completely whitewashing America's role in the war, including his own, by saying Zelensky started the war. That isn't true. The U.S. started the war and this war is the culmination of 30 years of U.S. plotting, scheming, propaganda.

Yes, Ukraine is a real threat to Russia. That is why Ukraine can never be a country again. Ukraine was never a country to begin with. Ukraine is what one scholar called a cleft society. It is a community that has too many conflicting racial groups in it that prevent it from having the natural social cohesion that facilitates the formation of a nation state.

Even now Trump is trying to extortion Ukraine by writing an agreement for Ukraines mineral wealth that would give the U.S. 50% ownership or right to buy Ukraine's rare earth's minerals and a right to Ukraines income streams from its hydrocarbon resource sales. He argues, illegally, that Ukraine owes the U.S. money because the U.S., unlike the Europeans, doesn't have any secured loan agreements with Ukraine for all they've given Ukraine.

Well, tough luck Trump. You can't make a contract after the fact. Plus if what you say is true then why didn't you correct that failure in your first term. You could've made a loan agreement a condition for the sending of the Javelin anti-tank missles but you didn't. That means you were in agreement with the arrangement as it stood.

It also isn't true that Ukraine got something for nothing. You assign zero value to the lost lives. You are the callous one, not Russia or Putin. I've not heard one word of regret over the deaths of the Ukrainian soldiers from any U.S. backer of this war.

Contrast that with Putin who has expressed words of remorse over the deaths of people he calls his fraternal brothers and fellow Slavs. Putin hasn't destroyed Ukraine in the way the U.S. has destroyed countries it has illegally invaded.

It is the West that has a problem, not Russia. The West wants to colonize Ukraine. It wants Ukraine's raw materials and in exchange Ukraine will by Western finished products exclusively. It sounds exactly like the trading arrangement that Britain had with the U.S. colonies.

I ask you, do Russia or China have any colonies around the world? The U.S. has made the whole world its colony through the U.S. dollar, its military and international corporations.

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LudwigF's avatar

I think you have misunderstood my comment and have become confused.

But thank you anyway.

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Julian Hudson's avatar

This is the most absurd ideal ever on how to end a war. Rewarding the West with the right to keep Russia's illegally expropriated foreign reserves is extortion. You can't find justice to the commission of one illegal act by committing another illegal act

There's zero way that Russia wins. Capitulation to this distortion.is only a win for thr U.S., NATO/E.U. and Ukraine. It gives them a face saving way to claim victory while handing.Russia a decisive defeat and public humiliation.

Russia has won this war and the west must accept that. If this comes to be then all that your ideal has done is to legitimate piracy, extortion and given the West every incentive to grind down its.peers and potential peers into perform.

The U.S. committed an illegal, criminal act when it financed, directed and consummated the 2014 regime change operation that had the ultimate goal of achieving regime change in Russia.

U.S. and Western criminality is written all over this war. Russia is clearly the victim. Of that there is no doubt.

What you should be talking about instead is the war crimes trial of every U.S, NATO and E.U. leader that supported a war and regime change operation that they knew Ukraine couldn't win.

If that cost them their lives, freedom and throws their countries into financial insolvency then that's just, too bad so sad.

Russia has won what it demands and more. It gets its frozen funds back with interest, reclaims its former Russian people and the full territories as set when those territories were transferred to the formerly landlocked territory of Ukraine.

No NATO or E.U. membership for Ukraine. All Western companies lose whatever they purchased of Ukraine. That's fair after all the U.S. wants China to give up all U.S. farmland that it had bought and refuses to allow Chinese E.V.'s into the U.S. etc.

The E.U. is no longer a apolitical trading block. It is very much a political arm of NATO and NATO is the overseas military arm of the U.S.

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Virginia miticiT34's avatar

Ma nemmeno per sogno rapinare e scongelare beni russi, per darla al West. Si vede che i suoi Consigli arrivano dalla GB

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