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Sladkovian's avatar

A good titular question, not really backed up by Glenn's questions, which can be a bit unprepared and scattergun on occasion, not really opening up topics, just eliciting one answer before he skips to some unrelated question about another topic e.g. "Er, what about Russia?"

So perhaps "Was the Iran war a strategic blunder?" might be better explored by the Realists?

I'd say the people best placed to decide whether the Iran 'skirmish' (for want of a better description) was a strategic blunder are the people of Israel. I have no idea how it's gone down in Israel. I believe Haaretz is supposed to have a good journalistic reputation, and to allow the frank criticism and honest discussion that we in the West are no longer allowed to have in the 2020s, but I don't read Haaretz, as 'moderate' as it may be, and I'm certainly not going to read stuff from the other end of the political spectrum in Israel, the religious zealot psychopaths.

Everything the multiple war criminal and ICC fugitive Netanyahu does is to save his own bacon. He'd sell his own grandmother to Ayatollah Khamenei if he thought it would keep him in power.

I suppose the big question is, what effect has all this had on The Fugitive's popularity in Israel?

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Salt Lick's avatar

Strangely enough Iran has decided to join the compromised U.S intelligence director Tulsi Gabbard to inflated damage assessments of the bombardment demanded by the White House at the complete and total expense of thousands of intelligence operatives working around the world. Sadly, Tulsi has compromised her integrity to save her skin and Iran is calling off the dogs with these far fetched projections. In point of fact, very little of Iran’s program was destroyed according to professional preliminary reports now deemed specious. Iran could probably have a bomb in a year if they are correct and more reason than ever to do so. The “war” was a symptom a more serious problem that was entirely predictable. The West is in league with a genocidal maniac who has the full support of countrymen. Nothing of any good can come of it. Everybody lying about everything for fear of being outed in the undertaking is quite the chilling spectacle.

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LudwigF's avatar

No matter how expert the experts are, or how many hundreds of them are opining about how much damage has been done to Iran’s nuclear program, all they’ve got to go on are some satellite images of a dozen or so holes in the ground.

Unless and until someone abseils down one of those holes with a flashlight it’s all just speculation and guesswork.

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Ed Surridge's avatar

Belief in your side’s righteousness can inspire courage, unity, and moral commitment. However, it may also breed intolerance, justify violence, and block empathy for others. This duality can elevate purpose or escalate conflict, depending on whether the belief fosters humility and compassion or fuels superiority and exclusion.

We are still watching a livestreamed GENOCIDE and are COMPLICIT

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BaronOfBelarus's avatar

Listen to the Israelis and to the war mongers like Lindsay Graham, they already want to go back in and bomb Iran again to "finish the job" - that tells you they didn't get what they really want which is regime change in Tehran. Trump, though, is purely transactional, he will tell them, "You asked me to bomb them, I bombed them, we are all square."

That means the Israelis and pro-war crowd will need a new narrative, they can't use the nuclear bomb narrative as Trump just told the world that he destroyed the whole thing, so they will need something different next time - my bet would be on a false flag operation on a US military asset.

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Sladkovian's avatar

The way Trump has closed this down, causing mass psychological meltdown among the Ziocons is hilarious. Much as I can't stand the man, it is a masterstroke, a piece of cunning worthy of Macchiavelli himself.

Tell the world Fordow has been wiped off the face of the Earth and then challenge the Ziocons to prove him wrong.

Seeing the Ziocon media being almost physically threatened at the Hague by Pete 'Deus Vult' Hegseth was quite a spectacle. I thought he was going to wade into them, he looked very very angry, and they hadn't even asked him about his white supremacist tattoos!

Then they go and drag out a pissed B-2 pilot from a local bar to spin a yarn about the biggest blast he's ever seen, despite the fact that he was supposedly flying almost as high as the moon in his B-2 and his bustling bombs supposedly went off somewhere around the Earth's core, so deep they almost came out in Australia, or wherever the opposite side of the Earth to Fordow is. Actually it's South Island New Zealand. Must have given the penguins a bit of a wobble then. That is if you believe that's what happened...

The Hague. Trump couldn't have chosen a better venue could he, to demonstrate Europe's sycophancy, Europe's hypocrisy, Europe's impotence. The place where war criminal and fugitive Netanyahu should be on trial at the ICC, yet there is Trump, sorry, "Daddy", in the Hague, surrounded by all the leaders that trumpet "the international rules-based order", every one of them FAILING IN THEIR LEGAL DUTY to stop the GENOCIDE in Gaza, and some, like "Daddy", even openly supporting it.

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BaronOfBelarus's avatar

I would agree with this completely, Trump, Hegseth and Rubio are telling a story of complete success at F0rdow, but the security establishment and Israelis are putting out a very different story - how can Trump row back from "complete destruction" - he can't, he has to hold the line. I think they will try and create a second narrative that they have found "more uranium" that the Iranians had concealed and that the US must destroy it, it's just a matter of time.

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Sue's avatar

I feel that Glenn Diesen is the kind of person that always walk over eggs, in the perfect middle.

Many of the people we follow cannot show their real feelings, waiting to see the true posture

is. Humanity idolizes people that are worse than nothing, like the case of the CHE he was a psicopath, I dated his cousin many years ago, the last time he visited his family he confessed

his father that the only thing that made him fill alive was killing directly people.

Gandhi He was a Nazi, correspondence with Adolph proved it as actitude in SouthAfrica if you

add his atraction to very young 👀 girls. Mother Theresa a sadist, she thought that extreme suffering was necessary to find God, "On others". We can go on and on.

I almost understand Simon of Montfort sent to end with Cathars when St. Dominic Ferrer failed

saying when asked How do you know who is and who isn't? I killed all of them St Peter or God

will recognize His Own. That happens when we have been covered with lies for 3 or 4 centuries.

Mind you What was Nürenburg trials with operation Paperclip behind about?

Will somebody pay in the future?

Your Patagonian-Spanish follower

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